
It’s not often but sometimes (shock, horror) the Drum jumps (rolls) to the wrong conclusion. Like most humans, the Drum was appalled at the treatment of livestock by ignorant cowards (Seriously, how brave do you have to be, to torture a bound and tethered dumb animal) however a recent email caused a bit of a re-think.
We do use the term “most humans’ as some trolling dills and Indonesian Ministers have actually commented that it is all part of an Australian, Western, White conspiracy to impose artificial and unacceptable moral standards on others. Got news for you plonkers, an arsehole is an arsehole no matter what colour or race you are. Oh and while on Indonesian Ministers, grab a copy of this week’s tempo, where the poor dear is wilting under pressure from cronies from our favourite “clean” party for special treatment
in the very lucrative and dirty frozen meat import trade. Is there no department that is clean in Indonesia?
Now with the rant out of the way, here’s the email that caused the rethink.
Dear Sir,
I must introduce myself. My name is Scot Braithwaite and my life has basically revolved around live export since I was 10 years old. I was unloading cattle boats in Malaysia at the age of 13. I have worked for all the major cattle companies including as a Head Stockman in the Northern Territory. I have a degree in economics from the Queensland University and I personally have sold more than 1.5 million head of cattle into Indonesia since 1991. I am presently employed as the marketing manager for Wellard rural exports.
I am writing to you after the Monday program to say that although I abhor the treatment of the animals shown in the video, your one sided approach to the subject and the possible effect of that of a ban on live exports is too big a price to pay for a report based on the evidence of an organization that’s charter is to shut us down. I have the following points to make. I would like to have the same time as those who denigrated my life to show you the other side of our industry. To show you what is really going on. In Australia there used to be thing about “A fair Go”. You have gone with images provided by one person followed up by your investigative journalist who spent a week in Indonesia. Your report makes out that close to 100% of Australian cattle are treated as was shown on TV.
1 the ship that appears in the footage “for less than 30 seconds” is a vessel that cost tens of millions of dollars to build. We have had 3 separate media groups sail with this ship and it can in no uncertain terms be described as best in class. The Wellard group has another 3 vessels of the same standard with another 2 being built in China. This is a total investment of 400 million dollars to ensure that livestock exports from Australia are undertaken at the utmost levels of cow comfort and animal welfare.
2 the feedlot that was filmed was given a 10 second view. This feedlot is without a doubt world class. Your viewers should have at least had the opportunity to view large numbers of cattle eating and sleeping comfortably in a fantastic facility. This company has in addition moved to kill all his cattle through stunning system that he has control of. This owner has spent 20 years of his life in the industry, has built his business from nothing, has done all that is required of him from an animal welfare point of view yet your reporter makes no mention of these things.
3 within A 3 HOUR DRIVE OR a 15 Minute helicopter there are another 3 world class facilities. All three feedlots including the one filmed, are at, or better than, what can be found in Australia. The cattle being fed, and the ration being fed, leads to a lot less animal health issues then a similar size operation in Australia.
One of these facilities is operated and owned by a large Australian pastoral house. They had no mention in your supposed unbiased report. The operation is run by a North Queensland man who, through His absolute dedication to excellence has built a feedlot and slaughtering system that his company, the industry and himself can be very proud of. The system is closed, all the cattle are already killed through their own abattoir. They import 20 to 25000 cattle year. They have been doing this for at least 5 years. Why should they be shut down? For what reason could anyone justify closing this operation down, especially without even bothering to look at what goes on.
4 the other world class feedlots that could have been investigated with a 3 hour ride in the car are owned by a large publicly listed Indonesian company. In all, they have on feed 50,000 cattle and import about 120,000 cattle a year. They have recently built an abattoir( the one that was briefly shown on the program) They built this 2 years ago as they knew that modern methods must come to Indonesia and they were willing to make the investment to make it happen.
The total investment from these 3 feedlotters alone in infrastructure and stock is over 100 million dollars. Add to that the hundreds of millions that Wellard have recently invested in ships and do you really believe that these people would leave the final product to a murderous bastard with a blunt knife? They not only have tried to ensure the welfare of the animal but have made investments to make the changes all along the chain. These people deserve to have their side of the story heard. If the system is not perfect, and it isn’t, they have the wherewithal and the incentive to make it happen in a very short time.
These 3 importers who have shown a commitment to everything good about animal production, handle 45 % of total imports.
The other major issue that was not covered was the social responsibility that all feedlotters in Indonesia practice. Their operations are in relatively isolated poor areas; the feedlots provide employment opportunity, advancement through effort, and a market for thousands of tons of feedstuffs grown for the cattle. My understanding is that 8000 people are directly employed by the feedlots and over 1000000 people are reliant on the regular income made from supplying corn silage and other feedstuffs. This is not made up, it is fact. It can be easily checked. I will bet my 1000000 farmers against the 1000000 signatures on the ban order. It is very easy to sit in your comfortable chair and criticize but is it really worth the human cost to ban something that can be fixed and fixed reasonable quickly?
That is Sumatra.
In JKT there is the largest privately owned abattoir that kills about 4 to 6000 heads a month. It is a well run facility that has no welfare issues. In addition it was working on getting a stun system in place well before the 4 corners report. No photos from here, yet this is another who has been doing the right thing and who will lose his business if the trade is banned.
The largest Importer in to Jakarta, has also built a slaughter facility in the past 12 months. It has not been commissioned yet but can be made ready within a month. They also have a private bone to pick with the program. AS was not reported in the show, abattoirs in Indonesia are operated by any number of individual ‘Wholesalers”. They control the space and the manpower kills their number for the night and then hand over to the next team. In any one night 8 to 10 separate operators can be using the same facility. In the case of the footage of the head slapping the camera panned to the cattle waiting and the tags of AA, Newcastle Waters and his company were made very prominent. Yes, they were there but the team that handled was different to one being filmed. They protest, that their crews are well trained, no head slapping occurs and very large and sharp knives are used to ensure a bloody but quick end. I have no reason to doubt them because I have seen a lot of their cattle handled at point of slaughter and their crews are well trained with immediate results. Where can their case be heard?
I have watched literally thousands of cattle slaughtered in the boxes in Indonesia. Yes there are problems, as there are at every point of slaughter on every type of animal in the world, but 98% of the cattle I watched killed was quick and without fuss. Why is there not one shot of what happens 98% of the time? The shots of outright cruelty are totally unacceptable and the slaughter of cattle is still gruesome and confronting but is not as prevalent as portrayed in your report. Yes it does some times happen but it is the exception not the rule. And we are already taking steps to improve the system and we have the ability to ensure all animals are stunned in a very short time.
Yes there are a couple of operators who in the short term will not be able to handle the new way. But they will be dropped, no commitment to stunning, no supply. No negotiation. There are also a number of operators privately owned who were, to all intents and purposes, doing the right thing. They were asked to supply through the boxes and they have. They will be asked to only supply though a stunning FACILITY and they will. They have far too much invested in the whole industry over many years to not do as we ask.
I am asking for a fair go. You have been expertly manipulated. Hear the actual other side of the story let the Australian public see both sides. I am happy to make all the arrangements. This is too important to let sit with the images you portrayed on Monday without recourse.
Scot Braithwaite
Scot makes some very valid points and I guess we do tend to knee jerk first and think later..
I have been on this topic too, but I have a bogan soap box queen hogging the comments on my FB page (feel free to sort her out lol).
I found a great article in the West Australian News which highlights the difference Australians (with media beat ups) feel between Bovines and Refugees: http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/opinion/post/-/blog/talkingpoint/post/41/comment/1/
I find it appalling that cows are more important than starving children and people displaced by famine/war/terror etc.
Hope all is well with you and your lovely family
xoxoxox Jen
Hey Jen,
Great to hear from you, yea I might have jumped too high on this one to start
..still never been know to be a zen calm like blogger..Everything good here and all well. I will flash you and yours an email soon
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And yup must be about time for another refugee post, cannot believe that the morons are proposing sending people to a camp in Malaysia is a viable solution
I can’t help but wondering if this is a make up post for your comments on the other thread? Kidding.
I should thank Scot Braithwaite for letting people know both sides of the story. And I thank you for putting his e-mail in this post. Sometimes people are too quick to make a decision, but on the other hand, some people are too slow to make a response. And I can’t decide which one is worse.
-Australia stop export cattle to Indonesia,, That their lost (Indonesia is their biggest market)
- For Indonesian, no cattle from Australia,, there’s plenty more from NZ, India, etc,,.
- Indonesian, treat animal like “animals”!! The reason we import live cattle is to purposed our Islamic rule which “pray before cut” and animal is in conscious condition. If one of unprofessional abattoir or personal “killer” exist its doesn’t mean all cattle in Indonesian is treated like that.
“catch the mice but don’t burn the house”
They certainly were not treating animals like animals in the video report EWR and abject cruelty is not part of any Islamic rules I am aware of, in fact the very opposite. So in this instance religion has little to with it nor is it a defence. The second part of your post, I would concur.
Dear Oigal,, Yes the video report is I must say cruelty,, no doubt!! when I mention about Islam rule is mean about situation that why we not imported frozen meat and having live stock instead. So this kind “shit” is happen.
But the reaction is too much,, its affected large section of level. Also from the Indonesian side.
Why we can just act smoothly with :
- From Australian side, to just exported their cattle into company/abattoir who have standard licensed.
-From Indonesian side, to improve their law control and behavior to animals!!
I believe even animal is need to treat with honor!!
Sadly, we eat them!!
XXXXX
That is what I am implying in the post EWR, I confess to an over reaction when I first saw the report …makes me human I guess
Indeed it is Deta, I must confess to a somewhat knee jerk first response, call it my inner greenie coming to the surface.
I still would like have seen something positive from the Indonesian Government to fix the problem rather than the nonsensical “we are going to complain to the WTO as we are being discriminated against” .
If the Four Corners video hadn’t been made and aired no one would have bothered. At least it has got the ball rolling and because it is a multi million dollar business there will be pressure from all sides, Indonesian as well as Australian, to raise awareness and try to fix the problem. Or am I too optimistic? However the reactions above are proof that the wallet is still the most sensitive part on the human body. Nothing is more effective than the threat of a drain on its content.
As for the reaction of the Indonesian Government what else did you expect? It reminds me of the hypocritically indignant reaction of the governer of Bali after the South Korean documentary about Bali’s gigolos, the Kuta Cowboys, who everybody, from low to high, knows but turns a blind eye.
But I still don’t understand what frozen meat has to do with religion. How about frozen fish?
Here’s another contrarian view
http://www.quadrant.org.au/blogs/qed/2011/06/our-lives-are-in-turmoil
Indeed, I did climb way to fast on that high horse, I should have known better coming from 4 corners, the home of vegans and other wasters
People all around the world knowed “Angry Birds” but in Indonesia we have “Angry Cow!!” Holycow Indonesia is great…!! Original…Hahaha
Hi!
I think we all agree that it is inapropriate to treat cattles as is shown in the videos reported by investigating Australian journalist. What suprises me is the way the Australian officials handling this matter.
Cutting its cattle supplies to Indonesia immediately without opening doors for bilateral talks sounds like an angry reaction without carefully considering its possible implications. Why not sending a delegate to discuss better slaughtering standards with Indonesian officials to overcome this problem. It would be more elegant and reasonable.
The cattle industri between Australia and Indonesia is a multibillion dollar industry with thousands of people involved from both sides. For Indonesias point of view, as a major muslim population fresh and halal meet is essential and therefore we may be uncomfortable with the western way of electrick schocks based slaughter. (Once again I agree fully that the slaughtering techniques has to be reformed to meet the standards). Besides, live cattles can also be provided by importing from other countries so the worry side is actually the Australian poultry Industry.
Hi Doddy,
I would agree and also understand the need for a differing slaughtering technique however can anyone really pretend even for a second after watching the video that there was nothing there but plain simple cruelty and torture of animals for its own sake. Frankly, religion has nothing to do with what happened on that video and it demeans the religion to suggest it did.
Hi Oigal,
I think our points are the same. What we need is a better and standarized slaughtering technique which also meets the religious requirement. In addition,bilateral approaches ASAP to find the best solution is essential to ensure that no prolonged sentiments and financial downfall in this sector arises.
Greetings,
Doddy
What do you guys think about stunning them while conscious?
Not much point stunning them while unconscious…
Seriously tho, there would always be some dispute about the correct halal way to kill and despite logic many would call (incorrectly) stunning not Halal. Never the less, a swift killing by sharp blade across throat would even be preferable to watch was occurring on that video. It had nothing to do with Halal killing, it was just cowardly, brutal, cruel torture by ignorant pigs (with due apologies to pigs), to use religion as an excuse in this case jsut demeans the religion and should be rejected for the absolute nonsense it is.
Well, maybe they can purchase cows or meat from Uruguay..but the travelling by ship would be too long